tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4459360717297142573.post4409345068568134743..comments2024-03-27T20:44:56.139+11:00Comments on chessexpress: Cheating in ... BridgeShaun Presshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00897215011002594039noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4459360717297142573.post-16072409404858523072016-03-26T15:12:07.655+11:002016-03-26T15:12:07.655+11:00"At the captains meeting following the semi-f..."At the captains meeting following the semi-finals, I approached Tournament Manager Disacco and told him I was not accusing anyone of anything but I wanted a monitor on the German Doctors. He informed me that he could not grant that request without proof."<br /><br />http://www.pbb-webinars.com/behindthescenesgerman.html<br /><br />Maybe the writer doesn't mean "proof" here (meaning "evidence" instead), but still it's a bit bizarre that the burden to achieve even monitoring is unfittingly high. I guess it happens in chess also, and in particular now with the formality that some want to apply in the ACC complaint process. As seen in Chakvi, effectively it implied that people who had suspicions <b>couldn't even ask the director to be more vigilant</b> without enduring wrath and threats. <br />Admittedly, the director can have some leeway. In the Nigalidze case, Petrosian complained, nothing was found when they searched him, and TP still insisted, leading to the bathroom being searched (and AFAIK, all w/o a "formal" complaint being launched by Petrosian). I had thought the formality of the ACC complaint process was to ensure that there wouldn't be any <i>public accusations</i> such as Toiletgate, Rudolf, Kurnosov, but I guess no good thought goes unpunished, and the extreme view (that <i>private preliminary measures</i> can't even be suggested without attendant "proof") has unfortunately taken root in some places.Name/URLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4459360717297142573.post-27019101377935934962016-03-19T11:59:49.271+11:002016-03-19T11:59:49.271+11:00I saw this blogpost, about the aftermath. They don...I saw this blogpost, about the aftermath. They don't know how to adjust rating points, from those who haven't admitted anything yet. The author was a bit over the top: If I were the attorney for any of these pairs ... I would go straight to Federal Court and present these seeding point reductions as evidence of the ACBL’s conviction of the pairs before the Ethical Oversight Committee has heard the case."<br /><br /><br />https://playbetterbridge.wordpress.com/2016/03/14/spring-nabc-reno-nv-day-4/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4459360717297142573.post-54326569466608693112016-03-08T23:14:48.653+11:002016-03-08T23:14:48.653+11:00One thing I find about Bridge Winners, is that it ...One thing I find about Bridge Winners, is that it is much more highbrow than most such forums, with a large number of top players (still US oriented, but some Euros too). Think if "Chess Winners" had half of the top 100 registered, and 10 fairly frequently active. And also, there are a lot of loving amateurs, with real world skills/jobs, which is something you miss on chess comments. But at the same time, given the number of lawyers in bridge, it's a bit daft how unclear they are all about the procedures of banning, the CAS, etc.Laarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4459360717297142573.post-18491414854957898232016-03-08T22:12:25.469+11:002016-03-08T22:12:25.469+11:00It is a bit funny. The bridge crowd looks to chess...It is a bit funny. The bridge crowd looks to chess as a paragon organization, and chess players do the same to bridge. The WBF is not quite in the same position as the FIDE, but I would not count on their acumen (better, the various national and regional associations IMO). Poland was awarded the next championships, and they have a big money donor for senior championships, so nothing too bad is likely to happen to them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4459360717297142573.post-33844733467690614202016-03-08T00:45:18.673+11:002016-03-08T00:45:18.673+11:00One just ended, at least the German case where the...One just ended, at least the German case where the guys admitted it. Six years, minus two years probation. The "German Doctors" case of a couple years back, also drags on, into civil courts IIRC.<br /><br />The bridge establishment took it so "seriously", that they allowed Poland to play in the championships, while at the same time refusing entry to their top pair. And their press conference was a bit of a farce (helped a bit by Zia not being able to ask a proper question, but rather making a political statement with a gratuitous "do you agree?" at the end, to much applause). Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com